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    wütend Conker's bad fur day vs. Live & reloaded

    Hallo Retrofreunde,

    Conker's Bad Fur Day ist zur N64 Zeiten total an mir vorbei geflogen. Ich hab später davon gehört aber es hat mich nie so interessiert. Der Preis war mir damals zu teuer ( 50-80€ 2008 herum) jetzt im Nachhinein denk ich mir Mensch warum hab ich das Spiel nicht 5x zu dem Preis gekauft. Naja Pech gehabt.
    ich würde jetzt endlich das Game nachholen aber 200€ in ovp ist mir zu teuer. Und ich bin ovp fetischist
    Jetzt zu meiner Frage es gibt ja die xbox Version, ich weis sie ist von der Sprachausgabe was Schimpfwörter angeht zensiert. Die Grafik wurde verbessert. Ist es eine gute Alternatieve zum Bad fur Day oder muss ich jetzt mein Blut verkaufen um an die n64 Version zu kommen ?
    Geändert von Isi86 (24.06.2014 um 23:59 Uhr)

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    In der Xbox Version wurde nicht nur zensiert,sondern auch diverse Spielabschnitte entfernt.
    Wenn dir das egal ist greif ruhig zu,ist trotzdem noch ein gutes und vorallem hübsches Spiel.

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    Afaik beschränken sich die herausgeschnittenen Spielabschnitte nur auf den Multiplayer. Der war in der N64 unfassbar vielseitig und spaßig (besonders zu viert) und in der live version quasi nur das "James Ryan"-Szenario. Das Single-Player Abenteuer ist meines Wissens nach allerdings zu 100% identisch (abgesehn von Grafik und Dialog).

    Ich hab das Spiel vor ziemlich genau 10 Jahren in einem Videospielshop in nem Kaff nahe Aschaffenburg für 14 Euro (NEU!) bekommen und es dann in nem anderen Forum für Resident Evil Zero, 1080° Avalanche, P.N.03 und Soul Calibur II (alle Gamecube) weggegeben. Die vier Spiele hab ich immernoch. Conker hingegen trauer ich bis heute nach. Hatte damals aber schon kein N64 mehr, es 1x bei nem Freund der noch eins hatte durchgespielt und eben dann wegegeben. Wenn ich das damals geahnt hätte..!!

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    Hallo,

    der multiplayer ist mir egal. Der singleplayer ist mir wichtig. Dan werd ich mir mal die xbox version bei rebuy bestellen :-)

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    Spoiler
    ]Changes from Bad Fur Day
    Character Different Designs: The graphics have been updated, and many characters have become more detailed, such as Mrs. Bee having eye shadow, Conker having more fur, Tediz getting clothes, and the SHC Sarge having a mustache.
    Gun Using: Conker never dual wields guns but uses only one gun.
    Great Mighty Poo's Voice: The Great Mighty Poo's singing voice was rerecorded to make him sound like his speaking voice.
    Character Mouth Movement: A majority of characters now have better mouth animations that are better synced to their voice.
    Bleeped Bad Words: Many obscenities uncensored in Bad Fur Day have been bleeped out. Bad Fur day bleeped out "Fuck","Cock and "Cunt" all the times it was said, "shit" half the times it was said, and "asshole" only one of the times it was said. However, in Live and Reloaded, Fuck is still censored, shit is censored almost all times it is said, asshole is bleeped almost all the times it is said, felatio is censored, and twat is censored all the times it is said. The only exception to this is the Great Mighty Poo's song, although it is only uncensored during the credits and not in the battle with him, when Count Batula was killed with "Oh, shit!", when the Fire Imp says "Hey, asshole, what am I going to do with this?" and the multiplayer mode, but multiplayer is only uncensored if the player has first beaten Single Player.
    Multiplayer Difference: The multiplayer has been replaced with a team based shooter that has a story. Some plot holes from Bad Fur Day were filled.
    Difference in Barn Boys: After exiting the barn after escaping the sewers, the water tower's water is now seen draining, while before the player simply had to find out themselves.
    Great Mighty Poo Strategy Changes: In Bad Fur Day, before the GMP boss battle, the player must throw one piece of sweet corn in the poo, walk up the path, put 2 in, and then walk up the path and put 3 in. In Live and Reloaded, the player only has to throw one in each time.
    Difference in Bat's Tower:The locations of the cogs in bats' tower is now changed. In Bad Fur Day, one was in a circular room, and two were in the room just past it.In Live and Reloaded, one of the ones from the second circular room was moved to the room with Mr. Big Cog.
    Difference of the Electric Eel: In Bad Fur Day, upon reaching the it's War chapter, Conker must have an electric eel chase him through underwater generators to turn the power on. In Live and Reloaded, it is simply turned on with a switch.
    Difference of Tediz: Instead of a Tediz being in the big gun in the It's War chapter, Tediz are guarding it.
    Difference in Death in It's War: When Rodent is getting shot at by Tediz, there are two other squirrels tied up who get killed. They were not present in Bad Fur Day.
    Cheat Code Removement: In game cheats were removed.
    Difference of Wasps: Strangely, the first time the wasps are killed the first one's death occurs off-screen. Later, the second time they are killed, the Boss goes farther before being killed.
    Defeatable Goblings: Clang Goblings are now common enemies and most can be killed. However, the ones that return from Bad Fur Day can not be killed manually. Also, new doll enemies appear.
    Bomb Run: A timer now appears during Bomb Run. It was not present before, but Conker still had the same amount of time.
    Gargoyle Strategy Difference: Conker's bat replaces his frying pan for most of the game. After attacking the gargoyle with the frying pan, he explains that the developer changed the training stage. Conker then hits him with a bat and uses it for most of the rest of the game.
    Electrocuted Difference: When the soldier is electrocuted, he is electrocuted longer and his eye falls out. In a similar case, Berri is shot more.
    Tediz Door Entering Difference: After getting guns in It's War, Conker must simply shoot the lock off the door. But here, Tediz assault him before he enters.
    Bridge Difference: In Bad Fur Day, the waterfall below the bridge goes into a lake that is shallow and the player can walk in. However, in Live and Reloaded, it leads into neverending chasm, and should Conker fall here, he comes out of a pipe near the bridge.
    Uninffected During Walking: Conker can now walk around while urinating when he is intoxicated.
    Levels Changing: The entrance to Barn Boys is now sealed during the night, possibly due to space issues as the night version of Windy appears to be completely retextured so a night version of Barn Boys was simply skipped. In addition Hangover is also sealed at the beginning of It's War, despite Conker must go through Hangover after he comes from Spooky. Hangover does not have a night version but shaded area seems less obvious, except for the sunlight near the top and if Conker looks up to a blue sky. The entrance to Bat's Tower is left alone and the level is still day.
    Great Mighty Poo's Eyes: The Great Mighty Poo's eyes no longer move

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    ]Changes from Bad Fur Day
    Character Different Designs: The graphics have been updated, and many characters have become more detailed, such as Mrs. Bee having eye shadow, Conker having more fur, Tediz getting clothes, and the SHC Sarge having a mustache.
    Gun Using: Conker never dual wields guns but uses only one gun.
    Great Mighty Poo's Voice: The Great Mighty Poo's singing voice was rerecorded to make him sound like his speaking voice.
    Character Mouth Movement: A majority of characters now have better mouth animations that are better synced to their voice.
    Bleeped Bad Words: Many obscenities uncensored in Bad Fur Day have been bleeped out. Bad Fur day bleeped out "Fuck","Cock and "Cunt" all the times it was said, "shit" half the times it was said, and "asshole" only one of the times it was said. However, in Live and Reloaded, Fuck is still censored, shit is censored almost all times it is said, asshole is bleeped almost all the times it is said, felatio is censored, and twat is censored all the times it is said. The only exception to this is the Great Mighty Poo's song, although it is only uncensored during the credits and not in the battle with him, when Count Batula was killed with "Oh, shit!", when the Fire Imp says "Hey, asshole, what am I going to do with this?" and the multiplayer mode, but multiplayer is only uncensored if the player has first beaten Single Player.
    Multiplayer Difference: The multiplayer has been replaced with a team based shooter that has a story. Some plot holes from Bad Fur Day were filled.
    Difference in Barn Boys: After exiting the barn after escaping the sewers, the water tower's water is now seen draining, while before the player simply had to find out themselves.
    Great Mighty Poo Strategy Changes: In Bad Fur Day, before the GMP boss battle, the player must throw one piece of sweet corn in the poo, walk up the path, put 2 in, and then walk up the path and put 3 in. In Live and Reloaded, the player only has to throw one in each time.
    Difference in Bat's Tower:The locations of the cogs in bats' tower is now changed. In Bad Fur Day, one was in a circular room, and two were in the room just past it.In Live and Reloaded, one of the ones from the second circular room was moved to the room with Mr. Big Cog.
    Difference of the Electric Eel: In Bad Fur Day, upon reaching the it's War chapter, Conker must have an electric eel chase him through underwater generators to turn the power on. In Live and Reloaded, it is simply turned on with a switch.
    Difference of Tediz: Instead of a Tediz being in the big gun in the It's War chapter, Tediz are guarding it.
    Difference in Death in It's War: When Rodent is getting shot at by Tediz, there are two other squirrels tied up who get killed. They were not present in Bad Fur Day.
    Cheat Code Removement: In game cheats were removed.
    Difference of Wasps: Strangely, the first time the wasps are killed the first one's death occurs off-screen. Later, the second time they are killed, the Boss goes farther before being killed.
    Defeatable Goblings: Clang Goblings are now common enemies and most can be killed. However, the ones that return from Bad Fur Day can not be killed manually. Also, new doll enemies appear.
    Bomb Run: A timer now appears during Bomb Run. It was not present before, but Conker still had the same amount of time.
    Gargoyle Strategy Difference: Conker's bat replaces his frying pan for most of the game. After attacking the gargoyle with the frying pan, he explains that the developer changed the training stage. Conker then hits him with a bat and uses it for most of the rest of the game.
    Electrocuted Difference: When the soldier is electrocuted, he is electrocuted longer and his eye falls out. In a similar case, Berri is shot more.
    Tediz Door Entering Difference: After getting guns in It's War, Conker must simply shoot the lock off the door. But here, Tediz assault him before he enters.
    Bridge Difference: In Bad Fur Day, the waterfall below the bridge goes into a lake that is shallow and the player can walk in. However, in Live and Reloaded, it leads into neverending chasm, and should Conker fall here, he comes out of a pipe near the bridge.
    Uninffected During Walking: Conker can now walk around while urinating when he is intoxicated.
    Levels Changing: The entrance to Barn Boys is now sealed during the night, possibly due to space issues as the night version of Windy appears to be completely retextured so a night version of Barn Boys was simply skipped. In addition Hangover is also sealed at the beginning of It's War, despite Conker must go through Hangover after he comes from Spooky. Hangover does not have a night version but shaded area seems less obvious, except for the sunlight near the top and if Conker looks up to a blue sky. The entrance to Bat's Tower is left alone and the level is still day.
    Great Mighty Poo's Eyes: The Great Mighty Poo's eyes no longer move
    Ich möchte nochmal anmerken: Die kleinen Verschlechterungen mal außen vor, aber SO sollte ein Remake aussehen, liebe zeitgenössische Publisher und Entwickler.

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    Weiß nicht, hab das Spiel sowohl für N4 als auch für Xbox und auch wenn das Remake wirklich hübsch ausschaut, die Steuerung ist furchtbar und auch die deutschen Texte. Das Schrecklichste aber sind die Ladezeiten. Irgendwann wurde zwar der Ladebilschirm weggepached aber das Bild bleibt trotzdem hängen, sogar bei Schnitten während der Zwischensequenzen. Bezahl mehr und nimm die N64 Version.

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